The Wickes / Tool Station store at South Road, Fulwell could be on the way to becoming a new Lidl supermarket. The plans are currently with El Brute and awaiting your comments. With a new Lidl already being built on Richmond Road in East Twickenham, this new venture would set up the German chain with another store on the other side of town, serving the Fulwell, Hampton Hill and Teddington too. Our Twitter poll showed a high level of support for the idea and a Twickerati Facebook poll is showing a similar result. But not everything is rosy in the land of good value groceries, some local residents are expressing concern about the impact of the proposed store (complete with its extra parking spaces and a possible additional retail unit) on the traffic, pollution and existing shops in the immediate vicinity.
One thing that even those who like the idea have mentioned is that the traffic light phasing at the nearby South Road, Hampton Road (and more names) junction needs to be addressed to improve traffic flow. That sounds a tad tricky if there is going to be more traffic in the area but at the moment the lights do seem biased against people trying to head to Twickenham from Hampton Hill. We can totally understand why people want to get to Twickenham, we just need El Brute to help them do it.
Does ‘every Lidl help’ in these difficult and uncertain times? Or, should it be a case of sauergrapes (geddit?) and “Nein danke” from the locals? You decide.
LINKS:
- Planning Application on LBRuT website – case ref 18/4073/FUL
- South Road Residents Association on Twitter
Twickerati 
There were literally hundreds queuing at 7am today prior to opening and all with the biggest trolleys. I gave up and left.
Are vulnerable or over 70 being able to get in first or not for the first hour
lightweight! 😀 😀 😀
In case no one has noticed the sign .. they will be open on thurs 19th!!! 🙂
Who cares
Lots and lots of people, sean… 😛
what time?
I will bet they are queuing round the block right now…
Opening summer 2020 according to this job advert: https://careers.lidl.co.uk/en/jobsearch/Deputy-Store-Manager-Richmond-New-Store-Opening-Summer-2020-28622
here is a search for Twickenham ..
https://careers.lidl.co.uk/en/jobsearch.htm?searchquery=&phraseSearch=&lat=51.4466&lon=-0.3282&locname=Twickenham%2C+London%2C+England&hitsperchunk=10
Hmm, do you want to work for a company that is not sure where Richmond or fulwell is??? a glance at gmaps says fulwell is in twickenham..
the website script cannot understand a lot of post codes…
Take a look at the planning applications.
give us a hint…
Jesus! What did your last baby sitter die of?
I’ve already given the web links.
since nothing else is happening….
I have noticed WORK HAS STARTED on the Fulwell site!! various side doors opened, and looks like an investigation of various utility ducts…
Lidl’s interrelated planning applications for the ex-Wickes site are being heard tonight at planning committee:
Applicant: Lidl UK GmbH
Recommendation: Planning PERMISSION for both18/4072/VRC and 18/4073/FUL, subject to conditions and in the case of 18/4072/VRC a Section 106 to secure improvements to the highway.
https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/PlanData2/Planning_CaseNo.aspx?strCASENO=18/4072/VRC
https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/PlanData2/Planning_CaseNo.aspx?strCASENO=18/4073/FUL
Locally we need a Lidl to serve Teddington and Fulwell sick and tired of the bigger supermarkets reigning supreme but not coming up with value for money!!!!!!!!
Let’s see if the store goes ahead, we should get a better idea on Wednesday after the committee meeting.
Yes, great Ideal. Will house prices drop or go up . I am unsure
Why build two in the area when there is enough. They should be building shops that we don’t have in the area
Yes the house prices will go down
How long will that last cause the carpark is full people will park in the disable spots but are not disabled they will use the family spots and the electric spots when they don’t need to if not they will park on the streets. Thanks
Call nurse, you need your pills…
Your having a laugh have you seen what it is like at other supermarkets they park in these spaces and it only needs people who really need them and can’t. If tat was me I would park behind them so they can’t get out and yes I am disabled and I have a blue badge.
Anyone got any updates if this store is going ahead?
No I don’t have a clue but if you want my opinion I really hope it doesn’t considering it is having the carpark made smaller
Harry, I pass there almost every day, I noticed the signs had gone a few days ago, so I checked..
all the signs have gone, all the external storage has gone, and there is a notice of application by LIDL for an alcohol licence!!!
Poor Sean, wrong again… the old wickes car park had 50 or 60 spaces, depending and how many trucks and skips blocked them up!
The new LIDL will have 115 spaces, including family size, disabled, and e-car charge points!! DO look at the planning link!!
Also there will be space created for some other shop, I wonder who will take it???
I don’t give a shit
Thanks for the update illiad. It sounds like progress is being made but still a few issues to resolve. Planning application assessment date needs updating. Hopefully we will here something soon, one way or the other it would good to know. Personally happy for the store to go ahead but can see why some might object.
yes, 95% seem happy about it, if you read all the comments.. 😛
there should actually be LESS dust and stuff, unless LIDL starts selling DIY !!! :O
The traffic will be similar to now surely. Locals will be able to walk there or use bicycles. Maybe introduce a roundabout instead of lights? A Lidl would be slightly more attractive to look at than a Wickes/Tool Station. We love Lidl.
Local people won’t walk some of them are to bone idle. The reason for that is they will use it just for the sake of it.
This is why small shops are going out of business
nope, a NEW CO OP shop just opened
We don’t need a lidls around here
People moan about too many supermarkets in the area but everyone wants this. I don’t think we do need anymore we have enough but now we only have one DIY shop
Sean you need get up to around fulwell bus garage, you will find there is NOT much..
A few small newsagents, expensive restaurants, a very new small co-op shop (only a limited stock like a newsagent..), squires garden centre, a station for trains that only go to London via Putney etc… (yes I got on a train that said was for Richmond, it got to Putney..)
Too many supermarkets?? people want good LIDL prices!!
– At the moment, they have to use bus or car.. (nearest is feltham or whitton, 2 or 3 Km away..)
NOTE the Neighbour consultation Just finished Today, I would be surprised if things start happening THIS year…
Nearest Wickes = 2 Km
nearest Tesco big store = 2.5 Km
nearest big sainsburys = 1.8Km
The ‘metro’ stores quite often only have food, and not what you want! eg the hampton Hill tesco does not have the same stock as the twickenham green branch!! about 1 Km to each..
http://tiny.cc/fullwelmap
I hope it ends up like the one in Kingston with no staff
Sean, ask an adult where the kingston LIDL is… {roll eyes}
Brilliant news could do with a Lidl more local instead of all these other little supermarket express stores popping up .Lets hope they can staff it more efficiently than they did the Kingston store which closed and Aldi moved in
IT is wonderful idea and perfect site for Lidl .We need super supermarket in this area. Many residents I have spoken to approve the idea of this new Lidl superstore. The positive thing is that there is good bus service in the area.
We don’t want any more supermarkets around here. Give the small shops a chance. I am not going to change I will stay with Sainsbury’s so there.
I just wish it was Aldi instead of Lidl
Wonderful idea ,ideal site for Lidl .Need a bigger supermarket in this area should do well cannot wait I will definitely be doing my shopping at this Lidl,at the moment I travel to New Malden.Hopefuly free parking not like the Tesco in Teddington High street which also has very limited choice.
if you are going the distance to new malden, surely the much bigger Tesco near the rugby arena would be better???
It looks like you DON’T LIVE in Twick, where the nearest LIDL is about a MILE away in Whitton, not 5 miles away in New Malden???
You’d think this was being proposed for the village of Nutwood from some of the comments.
Pollution concerns? Get a grip – the site has a huge double fronted bus depot (built 1902) next to it carrying 19 busy routes that no-one’s even mentioned. Opposite is the busy Squires Garden Centre & car park. Stanley Rd/South Road is a main artery and carries non-stop heavy traffic. There’s a VW dealer on the site, there’s the existing Wickes traffic already, plus an ambulance and fire station operating 24 hours.- and you think a LIDL will make a jot of difference (or have an ‘impact’ locally?) The area is grubby, busy, noisy and already polluted. And has been for decades.
I know because I bloody live here.
(Put another school on the site? Ever seen the twice-daily traffic carnage and parking battles that the much-extended Stanley School causes?)
What’s the answer? Close the bus garage, Squires and the rest to appease the eco/cycle/nimby lobby? Services, shops and road junctions must exist somewhere to serve the population.
Until I move or die of blackened lungs, I’d love a decent local major supermarket.
It’d save driving to Sainsbury’s or even using a delivery service – so there’s a pollution reduction already.
Stop protesting and get the bigger picture about where you live. It’s greater London and it’s dirty and noisy. That’s the point of it.
If you want peace and quiet, piss off to Nutwood. Property’s cheaper and it’s only 5 miles to the shops. (Rupert and Algy moved to Fulham years ago).
Congestion only twice daily (with CPZ kicking in the next month too) weekends, Christmas, Easter and summer holidays free from traffic chaos, what’s not to like?
Well said love the comment
As a resident of Fulwell who have had nothing but an expensive corner store for years I was delighted to hear the COop was opening. But it’s so expensive, prices are higher than M&S on some food! I think this site is large enough with parking provision to cover Fulwell Hampton and Teddington. Traffic in South Road, and pollution next to two schools however is very concerning.
There’s actually 5 local schools: Stanley, St James’s, the Mall, Waldergrave and to a lesser extent Trafalgar. Using londonair.org.uk data, air quality at junction of South Rd, Wellington Rd, 6th Cross Road and Hampton Rd, plus approach and turning into Wickes / VW fails annual mean NO2 objective.
With five local schools, Squires garden centre, the Brouge pub & restatement, shops, residents etc., the phasing of these traffic lights is programmed to benefit movement of pedestrian population too. If you think things are bad now…
Wonder why Lidl is so keen on the area (they already have a branch in Whitton – perhaps that answers my question!) but as yet no sign of Aldi…
I think they will do well; the success of Poundland and the Works shows we love a bargain. Next step: turn empty Church Street premises into outlet stores for retailers beloved of the Padstow/Salcombe set (thinking overlap with rugby trade) that have been priced out of Richmond eg Joules; Jack Wills…
Wouldn’t this make a good alternative site for the Turing House School?
Agree with Laura. Altho I like good value groceries (& wine) surely every available largish site should be considered for much needed school provision. btw I think the Whitton Lidl is not as good as it was a couple of years ago. It will be a blow for Coop who have just opened convenience store on corner opposite.
Surely this site isn’t large enough?
On the subject of the traffic lights at South Road/Squires junction. I contacted the council some time ago to ask why they couldn’t install a filter there. The reply I got referred to a completely different set of lights near The Fountain. I gave up….too easily, probably.
“We can totally understand why people want to get to Twickenham, we just need El Brute to help them do it.”
But preferably without putting yet more cars through Twickenham. A bicycle route through this junction (which is difficult to avoid) would be in the spirit of the Mayor’s Transport Strategy.
Fulwell resident here: there is another Wickes at APEX corner, so can see why they might look to sell-up. A Lidl would be a very welcome addition to Teddington/Twickenham’s shopping scene – in terms of variety and affordability – and I hope Councillors and officials will look for ways to make this happen – including traffic management – rather than to stop it. The location is certainly very accessible by public transport.
A picture would help, for those who don’t want to venture deep into the S L O W planning site, to find the right PDFS… 🙂
around 2 thirds approx will be LIDL, the rest to be rented out to someone else…
So:
But not everything is rosy in the land of good value groceries, local residents are expressing concern about the impact of the proposed store (complete with its extra parking spaces and a possible additional retail unit) on the traffic, pollution and existing shops in the immediate vicinity.
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Erm the residents who are objecting clearly have too much time on their hands and frankly need to get a life.
Can’t wait for this store to open it will be amazing.
Edited post to include the word “some” before the words “local residents”
What a blessing, nonsense about polution brought up as an excuse for everything.
Also parking, the car park at Wikes is always full to the brim at the moment so logically thinking it won’t make the slightest difference.
We’ll all benefit hugely by this wonderful proposal.
There are not that many spaces in the wickes car park, presumably they will need more? (Possibly where the timber yard is?)
Also, Lidl won’t be anticipating the same footfall as the current store as there would be no way they would be planning a store there!
That’s the concern about increased traffic at this junction….
I’d still like a lidl there so I can ponder the isle of crap but to say that it won’t make the slightest difference to traffic / pollution is bollocks really.