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YOUR TWICKENHAM MEMORIES: A SOCIAL HISTORY

If you’ve read this before, just scroll down to the comments. If not, read on.


Here’s a mini-project that needs you to get involved, write a few words and make it happen. Yes, you read that correctly.

The project
Quite frequently, but perhaps not frequently enough, we ask twickerati readers if they want to contribute to the site. And some of you do. Thanks! Now, imagine what it would be like if we could have more contributions about Twickenham life – personal memories, if you will – that would not only make great copy on here but also become something of a permanent record of Twickenham past and Twickenham present.

Various social history projects have captured people’s memories on audio, video and online. For example, the BBC’s “People’s War” project in 2003-2006 recorded huge numbers of personal testimonies about WW2. Did you know that Pope’s grotto was used as an air raid shelter by St Catherine’s School or about the V1 landing in the town centre? First hand accounts make for fascinating reading. If you want something more recent and less traumatic, check out our Memories of Twickenham Baths article and the comments on it to hear about rushing down to the pool on a summer’s day or the time the lady fainted in the queue. Remember?

But it doesn’t always have to be memories that make compelling content, current events fit the bill just as well. TV, radio, newspapers and websites all record the big stories of the day but sometimes miss the smaller detail, the stuff that makes up everyday life.

So what could you do?
By writing just a few hundred words about “Your Twickenham”, you could play a part in creating a collection of first-hand articles about the town, past and present, that could develop into a social history of Twickenham actually written by its people. Who knows, it could become something that goes beyond this website.

The content?
Whether it’s what you did when Bradley Wiggins rode through Twickenham in 2012 or your memories of the town in the war, let’s hear them. Whether it’s a story about watching blues bands on Eel Pie Island, your memories of one of the long-gone cinemas or of breaking your ankle at Richmond ice rink, or just an insight into school life from the 40s to the noughties, let’s hear it. Or perhaps you want to write about when Twickenham didn’t have any charity shops (is that possible), how you came here to study at St Mary’s University but never left, the day you moved into your first Twickenham house or the day snow brought Twickenham to a standstill, that’s all great too. Recent is good! After all, today’s personal accounts become tomorrow’s history.

Serious, funny, thoughtful or even a little bit ranty. As long as it fits the brief, it’s your call.

Who will see it?
The potential scope is broad (but needs a little help to fulfil it). How about plotting articles on a map, adding video and audio, or creating a timeline? Getting a town to produce its own social history of the last few decades could be fascinating. Are you in?

How do I get involved?
If you want to contribute a short piece (200-800 words) add it below, or to just discuss this idea drop an email to twickerati@gmail.com.

LINKS:
Mentioned above:
* Twickerati: Memories of Twickenham Baths
* BBC History: Pope’s Grotto as St Catherine’s School air raid shelter
* BBC People’s History: a V1 flying bomb lands on Twickenham

Examples of social history projects:
* City of Memory – New York
* Murmur – Toronto (audio memories)
* US “Digital humanities project”

166 thoughts on “Nostalgia

  1. On the subject of remembrances, someone asked about the school outfitters in Heath Road, this was Len Smith’s who had originally a half shop before moving to larger premises also in Heath Road.Recalling with fond memories other shops mostly long gone such as Woolworths, Pearces, Cullens, Bates the butcher, Hygenic bakery, James the fishmonger and Ogden Smith’s where I bought my first bicycle. Happy days

  2. I seem to remember that someone asked the name of the school outfitters in Heath Road, this was Len Smith’s and was originally in a small half shop before moving to larger premises . Whilst remonising, the names of some shops come to mind, such as, Woolworths, Pearces, Bates the butchers, Cullens, Ogden Smith’s where I bought my first bicycle, Hygenic bakery, ETC the sweet shop and Mold the baker. All or most long gone sadly, swallowed up by the big boys!

    1. I remember Len Smiths, Woolworths, and Ogden Smiths. As a small boy I remember being in Woolworths with my mum seeing a lady with a fox fur around her neck with it’s tail in its mouth. I found it fascinating. That was probably before WW2 had started.

  3. We moved to Copthall Gardens in 1938 when my Father was appointed 3rd Officer at Twickenham Fire Station. I attended Mary”s school and then Orleans.School.following which I went to the Technical School from 1942 to 1944. It is difficult now to remember many names, but two I do remember and they are Ernie Horton and John Chiplimg, both of whom I have now lost touch with. My Mother used to knit for the WVS and! My job was to collect wool from Radnor House. My recollection of one day collecting wool as usual in the afternoon and for the building to be destroyed that might by a delayed action bomb.

  4. Hi,

    Is there anybody who remembers something about an inhabitant called ‘Raddie’ who lived in the house named ‘Waikiki’ on Eel Pie Island in either the late Fifties or early Sixties? He was a Jazz fan but apparently involved with lots of other music and/or bands as well.

    Would like to piece together some of his history for personal reasons.

  5. Does anyone remember Murray park. My grandparents lived at 54 colonial ave and Murray park was at the bottom of there garden. I’m looking for any memories of my dad who grew up there. His name was Ray merry he had two brothers Mac and Henry. His mum I think worked in a biscuit factory . My dad Ray played footy for Whitton and went to Neilson school and then Whitton boys he was born in 1940 so would have attended school in 1946

    1. I remember Murry Park. They used to have fair there at times. Went there with a boy up the road from me. we payed role a penny and winning so we got to ride the Helter Skelter several times.

  6. Hi John, thanks for the info about the Poppe factory. I had no idea that it was named after its founder or that it went into liquidation as early as 1950. I left Twickenham in 1962 but don’t remember the site as having been redeveloped by then.

  7. I was born in Twickenham in 1944. We lived in Sherland Road near the old station yard. At the end of the street was the Poppy rubber and tyre factory, and at the other end by the railway line a chinese laundry . The coop delivered milk by horse and cart. Another world. I went briefly to St Mary’s primary school and then archdeacon Cambridges. AC was sports mad and the two leading lights were Denis Shilson and Kenny Goodlace. Where are they now? Soon after I started there we moved to carpenters court, very up market council flats. After 4 years at AC I managed to pass the 11+ exam and went to Hampton GS where I stayed until 1962. Anyone with any memories of these times and places, I’d love to hear from you. There aren’t many of us left……!

    1. Hi Ray
      I’ve just found the Twickenham site and write in response to your mention of Dennis Shilson. I met Dennis when we were 12 and 13. We married in our early 20’s and have 2 sons. When first married we bought a house in Surrey but moved back to Twickenham after a few years and lived here until he died in in 2016. He is sadly missed by all the family, he had a big personality and a kind heart.
      Sue Shilson

    2. Hi Sue, thanks for your comment. I’m sorry to hear that Denis has died. I remember him as a leading light in the football team at primary school. I lost touch with him after that. I hope all is going well for you and your family in Twickenham
      Ray Robinson

  8. Just found this site. I remember the L’auberge coffee bar by Richmond bridge c. 1960. In fact my then girlfriend Lesley Cooper used to work there. We were part of a group that used to hang around the Richmond and eel pie island. Anyone remember Dave blight, John Clarke, Sandra garnel..And so on.?

    1. Hi ray, I don’t suppose you k ew a girl called Pam Alderson, she had a friend called Evlynn do you?
      She was my mum, I was born in 1961, and she told me she used to sit me on the juke box there when I was a baby!

  9. John Snelling Nov16th 2018.
    My first encounter with Eel Pie Island at Twickenham wa nearly in 1955 shortly after a relative bought a hire-boat business on the Island. It was called The “Rivercars & Dock Co Ltd”. The chalet type bungalow fronting the dock onto the Thames opposite Ham Field
    was then flat roofed with a small gazebo in the centre and railings around the edge. The dock accommodating some 6 houseboats and a slipway, was entered via a tunnel under the lounge of the bungalow. There were always 5 or 6 boats moored in the dock. There were 2 slipways up to the boat repair sheds adjoining the dock. This property was situated next door to the now defunct Eel-Pie Island Hotel the owned by Michael Snapper.
    I started visiting Eel-pie about 1955 in the second year of my 5 year apprenticeship at Vickers Armstrongs Ltd at the old Brooklands race track near Weybridge. I used to travel by train from Weybridge station to Twickenham; walk to Twickenham slipway then catch the chain ferry across to the Island. At Ricercars we had some 16 14ft 5 seater launches for hire from sites at Eel-pie itself, Kingston and Taggs Island at Hampton Court. There was a gate leading from our slipway to the Hotel next door and I quite often visited the ballroom where popular trad bands of the day would “do their thing”. Snapper later introduced an Eel-Pie passport for the beatniks and jazz fans that came across on the ferry. He later had a pedestrian bridge built which still stands today.
    I was employed hiring out the rivercars tied up alongside 2 long pontoons which acted as a mooring. The boats had 2 types of motor. Some had Norman twin opposed cylinder air-cooled engines and the rest had Stuart Turner 2 stroke water cooled engines. The propellors had reversible pitch lever controlled screws, giving a top speed of about 4 knots. They were all painted red and cream.
    There was also a 25ft cruiser for hire called “Regiolou” and my”uncle’s” personal cruiser was “Bundy”.
    I sometimes would run the site at Kingston and occasionally Taggs Island. I recall an incident one night at the Teddington end of the Island when a female for a local mental hospital ventured out into the thames at low tide on a spit of sand. We were asked to jump in a Rivercar and rescue this poor lady, then take her to Twickenham slip from where she was taken to hospital. She recovered and we got a mention in the local press!
    My “uncle” then worked for the MoD in London and I would row accross to the slipway in our dinghy to meet him when the ferry was not working. On one occasion there was very fast flood tide running and I just managed to get to the slip. I had to row with my uncle pushing the oars as hard as possible and we drifted down towards the Kinston end of the Island before we could land the dinghy -very scary.
    I have found recent pictures of the bungalow which now has pitched roof with a small room where the gazebo stood.
    Does anyone know if the dock and houseboats are still there?

    1. I lived on a houseboat on Eel Pie at the location you described. The house was called Ivy Castle back in and around 1982-85 when I owned Frandor IV, a 32’ steel broads cruiser. The landlord was Sebastian Bell (played the flute on an Elton John track!). His wife, Liz could be heard practising her vocals as a classical singer.

  10. Have only just seen Malcolm’s comment on 27Sept2018 re Thames Valley School. Can’t recall his Mum, June Tooke, I’m afraid, but I was two years younger than her, born 1928. Such a pity, as we attended the School during the same years. Delighted to hear that HW Bligh was still H/M when his sister attended TV later. Mrs Bligh lived to a fairly great age and I met her in 1987 or 88 at that Old Thamesians reunion. But, an Old Hamptonian eh, Malcolm! You dont know what you missed! We had GIRLS, dancing in the school hall in wet dinner-hours, and much, much more. Though we did usually lose to Hampton G.S. at cricket!! But it was worth it! An Old Hamptonian, Bill Walkinshaw, now 90, with whom I sailed on a troopship to Singapore in 1947, and who now lives in West Sussex, has just dropped me a line. We are both ancient, gnarled and creaking, since meeting up again some years ago but, Hey-Ho, we’re still here, remembering our Twickenham days of old.

  11. Hi again I was born at Chiswick but lived at 90 Lisbon avenue with my parents Ron and Hazel and grandparents Tom and Jessie Hollands who were retired ,my other grandparents Bill and Emily Doubtfire lived at 6 Butts cottages Hanworth , Bill worked for Mckinnons Transport in Campbell road delivering mainly potatoes and veg to Petticoat Lane and other markets /shops,he went onto work at Firestones on the Great West Road.I remember going in the Fountain Pub off license to get my crisps on way to Twickenham past the Five oaks pub and the road to my first school Trafalgar,then past fourth cross road where for many years in my later teens call into The Graveyard ! Dennis Heath(sadly no longer here with us) for bike parts I bought an Ariel Square four with a wicker work sidecar for £50 off him! onwards down to The Green with Blays and Maple Leaf pharmacy where my great friend Galen Rosenberg lived, then through The Dip (still flooding I see ) to Beasleys religiously dragging dad to see the Scalextrics/trains and Airfix kits WOW ! ,next past Alsfords to woolworths etc to get the weekly shopping mainly at the Co Op still remember number 1223270 am I sad or what ?? , Then start the long way back to Lisbon Avenue loaded down with bags thank God in 1961 we moved to 1 Montpelier Row (council owned then offered to dad in 1969 for £1000 didnt want mortgage HO HUM IF ONLY !!! thats enough for now, Tony Doubtfire.Lived in Basingstoke since 1971 but Twickenham still home.

    1. I lived in Fulwell Park Avenue (50) from 1955. I remember ‘Hardcstle’s’ the butchers on the small parade. There was sawdust on the floor and the butchers wore blue and white striped aprons and boaters.
      The Fountain offlicence sold ‘milk gums’. The parade sweet shop sold two shrimps for a penny, 1 chocolate banana and 4 fruit salads/blackjacks.
      It also sold gold nuggets and 1/4 of lemonade powder. There were amazing alleyways on the Fulwell estate and we used to race round them on our bikes and make hide-outs and stalk people on the Crane Park island. The telephone box had an A B button and you could stand on the corner opposite the Fountain and sprint to sixth cross road if that bus came first. Happy carefree days, when you could go out in the morning and come back for tea – no one knew where you were and you were just OK.
      I went to Thames Valley 67-72 where I saw my first ever band T2. So if anyone was there at that time too – get in touch. Carolyn Webb (as was)
      I now live in Holly Road Twickenham and have two grown up kids.
      I married Steven Barrry – 1970-1975 Thames Valley.
      PS Does anyone know an Alan Smith, who lived near Linksview Road in Isleworth aka Schmitt – a mate of mine is looking for him.
      Carolyn.

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